Dravidian peoples

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Comment by Harshawardhan on June 25th, 2012 at 12:40 am

Please go through following link containing recent paper by CCMB Hyderabad, India, “‘Myth of the Aryan Invasion: Some Reflections on the Authorship of the Harappan Culture’.
Ref-
http://indianrealist.wordpress.com/2009/09/27/aryan-dravidian-racist-theory-trashed-again-by-genetic-evidence/

Thanking You

Comment by Jennifer Tanabe on July 13th, 2012 at 11:19 am

Thank you for your feedback. The article will be updated to include this new material.

Comment by jayan on February 17th, 2013 at 4:37 am

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australoid_race

That concept is a racist outdated concept and is not actually true.

The link you have [15] in fact says this as well:

Allele 18 of the same locus was present in high
frequencies among the Dravidian speaking Australoids,
Gowda of Karnataka; Irular of Tamil Nadu as well as
among the Indo-European speaking Indo-Caucasoids,
Khandayat and Gope of Orissa.
Analysis of molecular variance (Table 2) failed to support
the geographic, ethnic, linguistic or socio-cultural grouping
of Indian populations suggesting little variation
between the different groups.

your next link [18] in fact ends w/ this:
(9) historical gene flow into India has contributed to a considerable obliteration of genetic histories of contemporary populations so that there is at present no clear congruence of genetic and geographical or sociocultural affinities.

> However, northern Indians have more in common genetically with Central Asian/West Eurasian populations than southern Indian or Dravidian populations, who are more similar to East Asians, further demonstrating that there still exist significant genetic differences between Indo-European- and Dravidian-speaking populations

so i’m not sure where you get the ‘significant genetic difference b/w indo-european speakers and indian speakers.
also note that the study said Upper CASTE north Indians had higher similarity w/ Central Asian populations. Not everyone, just UC and that even in southern India,the UC were also distantly related (just not as closely).

This article seems to contradict itself and makes some rather unfounded conclusions in certain places.
it needs cleaning up.

Comment by Jennifer Tanabe on June 21st, 2013 at 1:36 pm

Thank you, Jayan, for your comment. Indeed this topic is confusing with outdated concepts and research results that do not support a simple model of a “Dravidian race.” In any case, the article has been revised to removed inconsistencies. Thank you again for taking the time to comment.

Comment by RIYA on July 28th, 2014 at 2:34 pm

The word Dravidian is NOT DERIVED FROM SANSKRIT. As per the manual of administration of madras presidency this was the name of the kingdom of COORUMBARS. The article is a political article and obviosuly casteist. The Brahmin and the Upper castes in India who are of Sanskrit origin want to spread disinformation on the Sanskrit origin of Dravida.

The word Dravidian originated from the Coorumbar of history who were a civilized race, carrying on extensive trade and commerce with the east and west. The formed a kingdom called Dravida, which now survives as generic title for all ancestral south Indian people. Hwen Thsang who visited Dravida about the year A.D 640 gives the Coorumbar a good character. He writes “The kingdom measures 6,00 li in circumference (1,000 miles). The capital called cancheepuram is five miles round. The soil is fertile, and crops grow abundantly, with quantities of flowers and fruits. The climate is hot and inhabitants are brave. They are remarkable for their strong love of faithfulness and justice and have great esteem for learned men. There are a hundred Buddhist monasteries with 10,000 clerics, there are 80 Brahminical temples and Jains were numerous.

Comment by Jennifer Tanabe on November 17th, 2016 at 3:59 pm

Thank you, Riya, for your feedback. The term “Dravidian” in relation to the family of languages was, however, coined in 1856 by Robert Caldwell who took it from the Sanskrit “Dravida,” based on the use he observed of that word. This is not to say that the languages themselves came from Sanskrit, merely that he created English name for them based on his awareness of that Sanskrit word. The term “Dravida” itself has a controversial etymology, with some scholars believing it to be the Sanskritization of “Damila.” The term “Dravida,” as you point out, referred not to languages but to an area of Southern India. Additional explanation of the etymology will be included in the text. Thank you again for taking the time to comment.

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